JTC1/SC22/WG14
N778
Document N778/97-142
We are at a critical point in our effort. At the October meeting we need
to be able to vote out the CD for the first of two ballots if we are to
avoid having only one CD ballot or sliding the whole schedule by a year.
Therefore, we must do the following:
1) Come to the meeting prepared, having located copies of each document in
which we have a vested interest (including those documents from previous
mailings), we read these documents BEFORE the session at which it is
scheduled to present. (And since we sometimes advance papers to fill slots
that open up each day, read it at least a day in advance. Also, for that
reason, presenters should be ready to present ahead of schedule.)
2) Have all our editorial and substantive corrections for the draft either
in a paper or, for small typos and the like, marked up on our copies of
the draft.
3) Abstain from bringing up new topics that are not currently on the
table.
4) Be on time in the morning and come back from breaks on time, so we can
eliminate the usual 15-20 minutes we typically waste EACH DAY while
waiting for late comers.
5) Come prepared to work into the evenings helping to proof the draft, to
produce words, and to integrate newly approved words.
Some Notes Regarding the Agenda:
1) Unlike previous meetings, we will begin technical sessions before lunch
on the Monday; the liaison topics will be dealt with when small time slots
open up.
2) Evening sessions are scheduled on each of the nights from Monday
through Thursday.
3) A review of the CD registration ballot comments will be done early on
Monday. As a result of Denmark's comments, if it is agreed that the
hardware I/O proposal should be given agenda time, I will schedule it.
Currently it has no time slot, since it was voted down in London.
4) The level of support we want for LIA will be covered Monday afternoon.
At this stage, Fred Tydeman is proposing a minimal approach, perhaps the
only one with which it is likely that all national bodies can agree. If
normative support for LIA is agreed to instead, that will take up to 5-6
hours of further debate; currently none of these papers are scheduled.
(Frankly, given our time constraints, I don't see how we can realistically
achieve more than what Fred is proposing.)
5) Rather than start out in prime time looking at the state of the latest
draft, I have scheduled an evening session Monday at which the redactor
will give a brief report. Then we'll identify all the papers, email
postings, and the like that apply to that draft, and we'll prepare a plan
of attack for the walk-through session scheduled for Tuesday morning.
Then each subsequent evening we can prepare for the following day's draft
review session. By the way, I have absolutely no idea how long the draft
review process will take, but I suspect I've not been too generous
time-wise in the agenda; hence the evening sessions starting on Monday.
6) There are two hours free Friday morning; however, I expect any number
of issues to be tabled until later in the week as usually happens, and
more than a few loose ends needing to be tied up on Friday. In any event,
there are a number of issues (see the end of the agenda) that could be
tackled if we really do run short of things to do.
WG14/J11 Meeting Agenda Oct 20-24 1997 (N778/97-142) 1
Agenda for Oct 20-24 1997
Meeting of ISO/JTC1/SC22/WG14 and J11
WG14/N778 J11/97-142
20 Oct 97 09:00-12:00 13:30-17:00 19:00- evening session
21 Oct 97 08:30-12:00 13:30-17:00 19:00- evening session
22 Oct 97 08:30-12:00 13:30-17:00 19:00- evening session
23 Oct 97 08:30-12:00 13:30-17:00 19:00- evening session
24 Oct 97 08:30-12:00
Sun Microsystems, Menlo Park, CA USA
** NOTE: SOME OF THESE PAPERS ARE FROM PREVIOUS MAILINGS. **
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Monday Oct 20th
8:30 -- 9:00 --- Coffee ---
9:00 -- 10:15 1. Opening activities
1.1 Opening Comments
1.2 Introduction of Participants
1.3 Selection of Meeting Chair
1.4 Host Facilities/local information
1.5 Procedures for this Meeting
1.6 Approval of Previous Minutes [N718]
1.7 Review of Action Items and Resolutions
1.8 Approval of Agenda [N778]
1.9 Distribution of New Documents
1.10 Information on Next Meeting
1.11 Identification of National Bodies/J11
voting members
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10:15 -- 10:30 --- Morning break ---
10:30 -- 11:30 2. Review CD Registration Ballot Results [N746]
(Benito)
11:30 -- 12:00 3. Aggregate initialization [N730] (Feather)
12:00 -- 13:30 --- LUNCH ---
13:30 -- 14:15 4. Rewrite of C9x Subclause 7.4 <inttypes.h> [N761]
(Gwyn), Mandatory intmax_t [N769] (Meyers),
Part C [N765] (Feather)
14:15 -- 15:00 5. Miscellaneous FP cleanup items [N757] (Thomas)
15:00 -- 15:15 6. Simplified integer conversion rules [N725]
(Feather)
15:15 -- 15:30 --- Afternoon break ---
15:30 -- 16:00 7. Bug in Compound Literals [N759] (Feather)
16:00 -- 17:00 8. C9X and LIA-1 informative annex [N758] (Tydeman)
17:00 -- 19:00 --- Meal break ---
19:00 -- EV1. Preparation for draft walk through
Empty macro arguments [N760] (Walls)
Draft 11 Pre1 Edit Issues List [N745] (Benito)
Current C9X Tweak List [N768] (MacDonald)
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Tuesday Oct 21st
8:00 -- 8:30 --- Coffee ---
8:30 -- 10:15 9. Draft walk-through #1 (Farance)
10:15 -- 10:30 --- Morning break ---
10:30 -- 11:30 10. Meaning of implementation-defined [N732]
(Feather)
11:30 -- 12:00 11. DR 156 wording [N544] (Jones)
12:00 -- 13:30 --- LUNCH ---
13:30 -- 14:30 12. Issues about time [N764] (Feather)
14:30 -- 15:15 13. Inlining Issues [N766] (MacDonald)
15:15 -- 15:30 --- Afternoon break ---
15:30 -- 16:15 14. Minor Changes to C9x [N762] (Gwyn)
16:15 -- 17:00 15. Some General C9X Issues [N767] (MacDonald)
17:00 -- 19:00 --- Meal break ---
19:00 -- EV2. Draft editing session
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Wednesday Oct 22nd
8:00 -- 8:30 --- Coffee ---
8:30 -- 10:15 16. Draft walk-through #2 (Farance)
10:15 -- 10:30 --- Morning break ---
10:30 -- 12:00 17. Draft walk-through #2 (continued)
12:00 -- 13:30 --- LUNCH ---
13:30 -- 14:30 18. Consistency and clarification changes [N733]
(Feather)
14:30 -- 14:45 19. Integral-to-integer wording change [N727]
(Glassborow)
14:45 -- 15:00 20. IEC 559 Binding: Signaling NaNs [N747] (Tydeman)
15:00 -- 15:15 21. seek and ungetc [N776] (Tydeman)
15:15 -- 15:30 --- Afternoon break ---
15:30 -- 16:30 22. Assorted minor substantive issues [N774]
(Feather)
16:30 -- 16:45 23. Trigraphs and Universal Character Names [N770]
(Meyers)
16:45 -- 17:00 24. File Position Indicator, fgetc [N777] (Tydeman)
17:00 -- 19:00 --- Meal break ---
19:00 -- EV3. Draft editing session
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Thursday Oct 23rd
8:00 -- 8:30 --- Coffee ---
8:30 -- 10:15 25. Draft walk-through #3 (Farance)
10:15 -- 10:30 --- Morning break ---
10:30 -- 11:00 26. Issues with size_t and ptrdiff_t [N708]
(Feather)
11:00 -- 11:30 27. Relationships between unsigned types [N775]
(Feather)
11:30 -- 11:45 28. DR 25 (fp representation) [N___] (Tydeman)
11:45 -- 12:00 29. Header name spelling [N772] (Tydeman)
12:00 -- 13:30 --- LUNCH ---
13:30 -- 14:15 30. Issues with representation of values [N765]
(Feather)
14:45 -- 15:15 31. POSIX alignment revised words [N___] (Simonsen)
15:15 -- 15:30 --- Afternoon break ---
15:30 -- 16:45 32. CD Ballot schedule and public comment process
(Benito)
16:45 -- 17:00 33. Separate WG14 admin/US TAG meetings
17:00 -- 19:00 --- Meal break ---
19:00 -- EV4. Draft editing session
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Friday Oct 24th
8:00 -- 8:30 --- Coffee ---
8:30 -- 8:45 34a. ___________________________________
8:45 -- 9:00 34b. ___________________________________
9:00 -- 9:15 34c. ___________________________________
9:15 -- 9:30 34d. ___________________________________
9:30 -- 9:45 34e. ___________________________________
9:45 -- 10:00 34f. ___________________________________
10:00 -- 10:15 --- Morning break ---
10:15 -- 12:00 35. Administration
35.1 Future Meetings
35.1.1 Future Meeting Schedule
35.1.2 Future Agenda Items
35.1.3 Future Mailings (sponsor for WG14 mailings)
35.2 Resolutions
35.2.1 Review of Decisions Reached
35.2.2 Formal Vote on Resolutions
35.2.3 Review of Action Items
35.2.4 Thanks to Host
35.3 Other Business
12:00 36. Adjournment
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Rex Jaeschke Sep 27th, 1997.
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Miscellaneous Items to be handled when time becomes available
Reports on Liaison Activities
37.1 J11 + ANSI (C)
37.2 WG14 + ISO/SC22 (C)
37.3 J16/WG21 (C++)
37.4 WG15 (Posix)
37.5 WG20 (I18N)
37.6 Other Liaison Activities
Pending resolution of national body comments:
[0:45] Template for implementation of IOHW.H [N771]
(Kristofferson)
Assuming we don't add normative support for LIA-1 Binding to C9X, the
following will be postponed for a future Technical Report or some such
effort:
[0:15] Adding 'pole' from LIA-2 [N748] (Tydeman)
[1:00] <stdlia.h> [N749] (Tydeman)
[1:00] LIA-1 annex [N750] (Tydeman)
[0:30] Combined LIA-1 + IEC-559 annex [N751] (Tydeman)
[0:45] Optional parts annex [N752] (Tydeman)
[0:15] Rationale [N753] (Tydeman)
[0:30] <fenv.h> to <stdmath.h> [N755] (Tydeman)
[0:30] Arithmetic exception => SIGFPE [N756] (Tydeman)
DRs containing responses promising to revisit during revision process:
DR 63 Floating-Point Accuracy [N___] (Tydeman)
Optional topics if we get time:
Proposal to Relax the Rules for Qualification [N754] (Krom)
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Agenda for the U.S. Tag Meeting, Thursday Oct 23rd at 16:45
Vote on CD Ballot
J3 (Fortran) liason
Other business
Boulder delegation and HOD were approved in London
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