Subject: Re: (SC35WG6.394) Advice from Japanese MB -- Fwd: Projet ISO/IEC PWI 22121-3 "On screen keyboards"

From: "Carter, James" <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2019 16:29:23 +0000

I (personally) strongly Agree with the Japanese position.
It is an excellent answer, that is a 3rd option.

BTW: Although I got notification from the ISO Balloting Platform asking me to cast a vote, it then would not allow me to register my vote, because although it recognized me and took me to the ballot, it then required me to select a name from a list that did not include my name.

Regards, Jim

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Subject: (SC35WG6.394) Advice from Japanese MB -- Fwd: Projet ISO/IEC PWI 22121-3 "On screen keyboards"

Here is an advice received from Japanese MB on whether 22121-3 should be Part 1 or Part 3. Japan believes the document should be split before we start an NP. I undestand that the content is OK, but needs to be used to make two distinct documents (part 1 and part 3).

What do other members think ?

If necessary we will discuss this in Busan before sending an NP (or 2 NPs).

Denis, would it be easy to do what Japanese MB recommends ?

Alain

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Sujet :         Re: Projet ISO/IEC PWI 22121-3 "On screen keyboards"
Date :  Wed, 11 Sep 2019 14:11:40 +0900
De :    YamamotoYoshikazu <[email-masked]><mailto:[email-masked]>
Pour :  Labonte Alain <[email-masked]><mailto:[email-masked]>
Copie à :       Yoshikazu Seki <[email-masked]><mailto:[email-masked]>

Dear Alain,

We had the national meeting yesterday and decided to send the following comments.

The general part of this document, that is up to 8.1, should use as the Part 1 and the rest from 8.2 to the last should remain as Part 3. However, Part 1 should include before Clause 5, an additional clause is necessary that explains what virtual keyboards are, what kinds of virtual keyboards are in the scope of this document, and details of each type of virtual keyboards with examples.

Also, Clause 6 should be reconstructed to clarify which recommendations shall be adopted to which type of virtual keyboard.

Interaction modes that are currently described from 8.2 should be included in Part 3.

It means that the current draft is not suitable as a NP for Part 3. We strongly recommend to restructure the draft as stated above.

Best Regards,
Yoshikazu [email-masked]<mailto:[email-masked]>
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Dr. Yoshikazu YAMAMOTO
[email-masked]<mailto:[email-masked]>

2019/09/02 22:44、marcq nicolas <[email-masked]><mailto:[email-masked]>のメール:

Dear all,
Here is the same message, but with the file enclosed.

Best regards,
Nicolas De : marcq nicolas Envoyé : vendredi 30 août 2019 17:55
À : [email-masked]<mailto:[email-masked]>' <[email-masked]><mailto:[email-masked]>; Alain LaBonté [⩀⩑⫖] <[email-masked]><mailto:[email-masked]>; YamamotoYoshikazu <[email-masked]><mailto:[email-masked]>; Thibault G <[email-masked]><mailto:[email-masked]>; Carter, James <[email-masked]><mailto:[email-masked]>
Cc : jean melissa <[email-masked]><mailto:[email-masked]>
Objet : RE: Projet ISO/IEC PWI 22121-3 "On screen keyboards"
Dear SC 35 convenors,
Accordingly to resolution below, please find enclosed the resolution of comments and new draft for ISO/IEC 2212-3.
I have circulated it on SC 35 Livelink as doc N I would like to ask you to :
- WG 1 : Alain, send a message to WG 1 members requesting a position on the possible launch of a NP vote on this project.
- WG 1, WG 4, WG 5 and WG 6, send a message to your respective members asking on making this restructured document Part 1 of the series or maintain it as Part 3 no later than 2019-11-30.

Please note you can use a Working Group consultation to do that, if you do not wish to bother collecting answers by email.
ð https://isotc.iso.org/livelink/eb3/part/viewMyBallots.do?method=doAllOpen&ballotTypes=
ð New ballot – Working Group Consultation
Thanks for your participation.
Resolution 2019-43: Follow-up of resolution 2019-05 "On-screen keyboards – part 3" ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 35
· requests Dr. Denis Chêne to send the disposition of comments received on his draft as well as a restructured document to the WG1 convenor before 2019-08-31 so that these be posted to the experts to decide internally if the project is mature enough at that time to send an NP with the working draft at the Busan meeting;
· requests the WG1, WG4, WG5 and WG6 experts to review the new document when posted and give directions again on making this restructured document Part 1 of the series or maintain it as Part 3 no later than 2019-11-30.
Unanimously approved
Best regards,
Nicolas
De : [email-masked]<mailto:[email-masked]> [mailto:[email-masked]] Envoyé : jeudi 29 août 2019 17:25
À : marcq nicolas <[email-masked]><mailto:[email-masked]>
Cc : jean melissa <[email-masked]><mailto:[email-masked]>
Objet : RE: Projet ISO/IEC PWI 22121-3 "On screen keyboards"
Bonjour Nicolas,
Veuillez trouver ci-joint le document de réponse à commentaires ainsi que la nouvelle version du document en objet ce mail.
Cordialement
Denis
De : marcq nicolas [mailto:[email-masked]] Envoyé : jeudi 22 août 2019 15:25
À : CHENE Denis TGI/TECHNO
Cc : jean melissa
Objet : Projet ISO/IEC PWI 22121-3 "On screen keyboards"
Bonjour Denis,
Je me permets de vous relancer sur le projet de norme en objet de cet email.
Suite à son inscription en PWI (Pre Work Item) le 29 octobre 2018, un appel à commentaires à été lancé avec les résultats en PJ.
Nous sommes maintenant en attente que vous proposiez des réponses à ces commentaires et que ces réponses soient implémentées dans le draft.
Cette nouvelle version servira à décider lors du prochain meeting du SC 35 (en Janvier à Busan, Corée) si le document est prêt à partir au vote NP (New Project).
Une résolution a été prise à Shanghai au début du mois d’août en ce sens.
Je vous remercie pour votre action sur ce projet.

Bien cordialement,
Nicolas Marcq
Resolution 2019-43: Follow-up of resolution 2019-05 "On-screen keyboards – part 3" ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 35
· requests Dr. Denis Chêne to send the disposition of comments received on his draft as well as a restructured document to the WG1 convenor before 2019-08-31 so that these be posted to the experts to decide internally if the project is mature enough at that time to send an NP with the working draft at the Busan meeting;
· requests the WG1, WG4, WG5 and WG6 experts to review the new document when posted and give directions again on making this restructured document Part 1 of the series or maintain it as Part 3 no later than 2019-11-30.
Unanimously approved

Nicolas MARCQ
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