Subject: WG11/N397 - Conveners report to SC22

From: Willem Wakker <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 94 12:35:27 N

WG11 Convener report to SC22, June 1994       SC22/WG11/N397

1.  Meetings

The following meeting of SC22/WG11 has been held since the last report:

25-29 April 1994   London (U.K.)

The large interval between this last meeting and the previous one (July
1993) was due to the fact that most of the documents under production were
out for ballot.

The following meeting is planned:

January 1995   U.S.A., date and place yet to be established.

NOTE: the tentative meeting for September 1994, as mentioned in the Minutes
of WG11 WILL NOT TAKE PLACE, since not enough participation could be
attracted.

2.  WG11 Participation

In the previous WG11 convener report to SC22 it was noted that the
participation in WG11, and the attendance to WG11 meetings was decreasing.
This situation has not improved at all: at the last meeting there were
(next to a number of experts which attended the meeting to discuss only one
topic) only three ``full-time'' WG11 members present (representing the
U.S., the U.K., and the Netherlands).

SC22 Member Bodies are urgently requested to review their support for the
WG11 activities.

3.  Work Item JTC1.22.16 - Common Procedure Calling Mechanism

Working draft 6.3 of this document (SC22/N1507) passed the CD registration
ballot (for the ballot results and comments, see SC22/N1572).  An updated
version for subsequent DIS ballot will be available in as soon as possible.

During the last meeting great concern was expressed on the alignment with
the SC21 RPC specification: it appears that it might be the case that, in
order to resolve some negative DIS ballot comments, a completely different
specification will be proposed.  This would ruin the carefully prepared
alignment with LIPC, and would nullify all the efforts WG11 has put into
this alignment.
A liaison statement expressing these concerns has been sent to SC21/WG8.

4.  Work Item JTC1.22.17 - Common Language-Independent Datatypes

LID version 8 (SC22/N1577) was sent to ITTF for DIS processing in
April 1994.  The DIS ballot closes by the end of October 1994.

5.  Work Item JTC1.22.28 - Language Independent Arithmetic, Part 1

The LIA-1 (integer and floating point arithmetic) document passed the DIS
ballot with 2 NO votes: one from France (on the incorrect translation of
the title into French), and one from Sweden.  During the April meeting, the
Swedish comments were discussed extensively, but it was not possible to
reverse the Swedish NO vote.

A revised version will be sent to ITTF for publication as IS 10967-1.

6.  Work Item JTC1.22.33 - Language Independent Arithmetic, Part 2

Now that DIS 10967-1 is about to be published, the work on part 2 (on
mathematical procedures) can really start.  It is hoped to have a first WD
available for WG11 by November 1994, and a WD for CD registration by
June 1995.

7.  Work Item JTC1.22.34 - Language Independent Arithmetic, Part 3

The work on this part of IS 10967 (on complex arithmetic and procedures)
will follow (in time) the work on part 2,

8.  Language Independent Service Specifications

A NWI proposal for a TR, titled `Guidelines for the Preparation of Language
Independent Service Specifications', was approved (JTC 1/N2976).

As with all WG11 projects, here again participation is a problem:  three
out of the six JTC 1 P-members which indicated participation during the
ballot (Germany, Japan and Roumania) are not attending WG11 meetings.
Furthermore, the U.S. voted NO, and only after the April meeting of WG11 it
became clear that the intended project editor for this project (from the
U.S.) would indeed be available to do the work (although no travel budget
for 1994 was available).

Before WG11 will embark on this project, this participation issue will be
brought forward to the SC22 Plenary in September 1994.

9.  Liaisons

Liaisons exist with the following SC22 WGs: WG2 - Pascal, WG3 - APL, WG4 -
COBOL, WG9 - Ada, and WG15 - POSIX.  Also, liaison representatives from
SC24 (Graphics) and SC26 (Micro Processors) to WG11 have been appointed.

Informal liaisons also exists with SC22/WG13 - Modula-2, SC22/WG17 -
Prolog, SC2 - Characters,  SC21/WG8 - RPC, and ECMA TC33 - PCTE.

10.  SC22/WG11 Milestones

Work Item 22.16 - Language-Independent Procedure Calling
Milestones:   2.8   93-10   WD approved for registration as CD
	      3.0   93-11   CD registered
	      3.4   94-10   CD approved for registration as DIS

Work Item 22.17 - Language-Independent Datatypes
Milestones:   2.8   91-01   WD approved for registration as CD
	      3.0   91-05   CD registered
	      3.1   91-05   CD study initiated
	      3.8   93-10   CD approved for registration as DIS
	      4.1   94-04   DIS ballot initiated

Work Item 22.28 - Language-Independent Arithmetic, Part 1
Milestones:   3.8   93-04   CD approved for registration as DIS
	      4.1   93-09   DIS ballot initiated
	      4.8   94-07   Full report circulated and DIS
			    approved for publication as IS

Work Item 22.33 - Language-Independent Arithmetic, Part 2
Milestones:   2.1   91-09   WD study initiated
		    94-11   First draft circulated
	      2.8   95-06   WD draft for CD registration

Work Item 22.34 - Language-Independent Arithmetic, Part 3
Milestones:   2.1   91-09   WD study initiated
		    95-11   First draft circulated
	      2.8   96-06   WD draft for CD registration

11.  Contact points

Drs. Willem Wakker
	  ACE Associated Computer Experts bv
	  Van Eeghenstraat 100
	  1071 GL AMSTERDAM
	  Nederland
Phone:	  +31	20 6657037
Fax:	  +31	20 6750389
Email:	  [email-masked]
Remark:   Convener SC22/WG11

Mr. Edward Barkmeyer
	  National Institute of Standards and Technology
	  Building 225, Mail Stop B-266
	  Gaithersburg MD 20899
	  U.S.A.
Phone:	  +1	301 975 3528
Fax:	  +1	301 258 9749
Email:	  [email-masked]
Remark:   Project Editor Language Independent Datatypes

Mr. Ken Edwards
	  IBM Corporation
	  55 Bailey Ave., POB 49023
	  San Jose CA 95161
	  U.S.A.
Phone:	  +1	408 4633095
Fax:	  +1	408 4633114
Email:	  [email-masked]
Remark:   Project Editor Language Independent Procedure Calling

Mr. Craig Schaffert
	  DEC, Cambridge Research Lab
	  One Kendall Square, Bldg 700
	  Cambridge MA 02139
	  U.S.A.
Phone:	  +1	617 621 6617
Fax:	  +1	617 621 6650
Email:	  [email-masked]
Remark:   Project Editor Language Independent Arithmetic

Ms. Mary Payne
	  Digital Equipment Corporation
	  129 Parker Street
	  Maynard MA 01754
	  U.S.A.
Phone:	  +1	508 493 2586
Fax:	  +1	508 493 3608
Email:	  [email-masked]
Remark:   Project Editor Language Independent Arithmetic

Mr. Tom Turba
	  Unisys Corporation
	  P.O. Box 64942
	  St. Paul MN 55164-0942
	  U.S.A.
Phone:	  +1	612 635 6774
Fax:	  +1	612 635 3899
Email:	  [email-masked]
Remark:   Liaison with SC22/WG2 - Pascal

Dr. Eke Batenburg
	  RUL, Instituut voor Theoretische Biologie
	  Kaiserstraat 63
	  2311 GP LEIDEN
	  Nederland
Phone:	  +31	71 274900
Fax:	  +31	71 274972
Email:	  [email-masked]
Remark:   Liaison with SC22/WG3 - APL

Mr. Donald Nelson
	  Tandem Computers Inc.
	  5425 Stevens Creek Blvd.
	  Santa Clara CA 95051-7200
	  U.S.A.
Phone:	  +1	408 285 5203
Fax:	  +1	408 285 5245
Remark:   Liaison with SC22/WG4 - COBOL

Mr. Bill Carlson
	  Intermetrics Inc.
	  733 Concord Ave.
	  Cambridge MA 02138
	  U.S.A.
Phone:	  +1	617 661 1840
Fax:	  +1	617 868 2843
Email:	  [email-masked]
Remark:   Liaison with SC22/WG9 - ADA

Mr. Paul Rabin
	  Open Software Foundation
	  11 Cambridge Center
	  Cambridge MA 02142
	  U.S.A.
Phone:	  +1	617 621 8873
Fax:	  +1	617 621 0584
Remark:   Liaison with SC22/WG15 - POSIX

Mr. Christof Blum
	  Fraunhofer-Computer Graphics Research Group
	  Wilhelminenstr. 7
	  W-6100 DARMSTADT
	  Germany
Phone:	  +49	6151 155 145
Fax:	  +49	6151 155 194
Remark:   Liaison with SC24 - Computer Graphics

Dr. Richard Karpinski
	  University of California San Francisco
	  U-76
	  San Francisco CA 94143-0704
	  U.S.A.
Phone:	  +1	415 476 4529
Remark:   Liaison with SC26 - Micro Processors

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